I have read your FAQ about accuracy. It says:
"The ECM-1240 device is calibrated to within 1% accuracy. The CT accuracy must also be factored into the equation. Most of our CTs are accurate to within 1%. The overall accuracy is typically 2%."
I assume this is when the measured circuit is at full power. What about at a low power level? How many bits of resolution are the voltage and current inputs? How many samples are read per each AC sine wave?
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Accuracy at low power
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Re: Accuracy at low power
Use this link to get to info on the CT's.
http://www.brultech.com/products/ECM124 ... /types.htm
In the right-half of the window, find the CT you want and under it's picture,
click on Specs. In the next window that pops up , you'll see -3- tabs ; click
on Specifications. Scroll down a bit and you'll see a graph showing the
% accuracy vs. amperage.
http://www.brultech.com/products/ECM124 ... /types.htm
In the right-half of the window, find the CT you want and under it's picture,
click on Specs. In the next window that pops up , you'll see -3- tabs ; click
on Specifications. Scroll down a bit and you'll see a graph showing the
% accuracy vs. amperage.
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Re: Accuracy at low power
Thanks 67stang,
I'm interested in reading low power on a 20 Amp circuit. The smallest CT is the Micro-40. The accuracy chart for this CT only goes down to 1 amp or 120 Watts.
That's much higher than multiple LED light bulbs and even more so a wall wart for small electronics. I would like to know how much these small loads which may be running 24/7 are using.
And, the CT is only a part of the overall accuracy. According to this post http://www.brultech.com/home/community/ ... 8a2a6#p920
the aux inputs of the ECM-1240 are 10 bit resolution. They can measure up to 80 Amps so:
80 amps / 1023 = 0.0782 amps resolution which yields 0.0782 amps * 120 volts = 9.4 Watts resolution.
This means that anything below about 20 watts would have very bad accuracy and a wall wart at 4 or 5 watts may not register any reading.
I'm interested in reading low power on a 20 Amp circuit. The smallest CT is the Micro-40. The accuracy chart for this CT only goes down to 1 amp or 120 Watts.
That's much higher than multiple LED light bulbs and even more so a wall wart for small electronics. I would like to know how much these small loads which may be running 24/7 are using.
And, the CT is only a part of the overall accuracy. According to this post http://www.brultech.com/home/community/ ... 8a2a6#p920
the aux inputs of the ECM-1240 are 10 bit resolution. They can measure up to 80 Amps so:
80 amps / 1023 = 0.0782 amps resolution which yields 0.0782 amps * 120 volts = 9.4 Watts resolution.
This means that anything below about 20 watts would have very bad accuracy and a wall wart at 4 or 5 watts may not register any reading.
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Re: Accuracy at low power
Automate wrote:Thanks 67stang,
I'm interested in reading low power on a 20 Amp circuit. The smallest CT is the Micro-40. The accuracy chart for this CT only goes down to 1 amp or 120 Watts.
That's much higher than multiple LED light bulbs and even more so a wall wart for small electronics. I would like to know how much these small loads which may be running 24/7 are using.
And, the CT is only a part of the overall accuracy. According to this post http://www.brultech.com/home/community/ ... 8a2a6#p920
the aux inputs of the ECM-1240 are 10 bit resolution. They can measure up to 80 Amps so:
80 amps / 1023 = 0.0782 amps resolution which yields 0.0782 amps * 120 volts = 9.4 Watts resolution.
This means that anything below about 20 watts would have very bad accuracy and a wall wart at 4 or 5 watts may not register any reading.
I just recently installed the new GEM module and also use micro 40 CT's. I have many low power devices and the GEM has no problem detecting their wattage in use.
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Re: Accuracy at low power
Thanks for posting the data.
I wonder if the GEM is more accurate since it is a newer generation than the ECM-1240.
Also, just a reading does not tell us the accuracy. Do you have a Kill-A-Watt or other method of accurately measuring and comparing the power readings?
The Kill-A-Watt claims an accuracy of 0.2% and a maximum rating of 1875 VA or for a resistive loads, 1875 Watts. So 1875 * 0.002 yields plus or minus 3.75 Watts
http://www.p3international.com/products ... 00-ce.html
I wonder if the GEM is more accurate since it is a newer generation than the ECM-1240.
Also, just a reading does not tell us the accuracy. Do you have a Kill-A-Watt or other method of accurately measuring and comparing the power readings?
The Kill-A-Watt claims an accuracy of 0.2% and a maximum rating of 1875 VA or for a resistive loads, 1875 Watts. So 1875 * 0.002 yields plus or minus 3.75 Watts
http://www.p3international.com/products ... 00-ce.html
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Re: Accuracy at low power
Automate wrote:Thanks for posting the data.
I wonder if the GEM is more accurate since it is a newer generation than the ECM-1240.
Also, just a reading does not tell us the accuracy. Do you have a Kill-A-Watt or other method of accurately measuring and comparing the power readings?
The Kill-A-Watt claims an accuracy of 0.2% and a maximum rating of 1875 VA or for a resistive loads, 1875 Watts. So 1875 * 0.002 yields plus or minus 3.75 Watts
http://www.p3international.com/products ... 00-ce.html
Yes, I have two Kill A Watt meters for reference along with another *Blue Planet* device. I also compared the watt data to the manufactures listed power consumption. In all cases the GEM (measured power) was reflective of the makers claim.
As a data point: I have many various plug in *Insteon* devices. The maker claims aprox 1 watt of power consumption for these Appliance Linc modules etc. The GEM reports back the same level of power to the Kill A Watt etc.
Also, the GEM has a PT setting which allows you to *fine tune* the measured accuracy to portray the value captured. I have measured the incoming voltage to my main service panel and have adjusted the PT to accurately reflect the power being measured.
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