I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
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I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
1) are there any approved installers in the Seattle area who are experience in putting in a GEM can do the hard work of helping me understand what to buy??
2) how do I know which circuits have neutral? I replaced most of my light switches recently with Insteon and z-wave and every switch had a neutral in it. I should I assume every circuit has a neutral?
3) is there a set of templates some where that make it easy for me t document my panel? maybe a one note / word / excel doc or something?
Edit - I put my panel details in the project forum.
2) how do I know which circuits have neutral? I replaced most of my light switches recently with Insteon and z-wave and every switch had a neutral in it. I should I assume every circuit has a neutral?
3) is there a set of templates some where that make it easy for me t document my panel? maybe a one note / word / excel doc or something?
Edit - I put my panel details in the project forum.
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
1. There are no approved installers. Please state what your intent is and how many circuits you wish to monitor. Everyone would be more then happy to assist you in providing feed back as to what would meet your needs.scyto wrote:1) are there any approved installers in the Seattle area who are experience in putting in a GEM can do the hard work of helping me understand what to buy??
2) how do I know which circuits have neutral? I replaced most of my light switches recently with Insteon and z-wave and every switch had a neutral in it. I should I assume every circuit has a neutral?
3) is there a set of templates some where that make it easy for me t document my panel? maybe a one note / word / excel doc or something?
Edit - I put my panel details in the project forum.
2. This reference guide may assist you with the questions: http://www.brultech.com/products/ECM124 ... ircuit.htm
The only way to determine if a load has a neutral is to confirm at the service panel. Your lights use the neutral wire to power the Insteon devices. It is not the same as a load that is a split 120/ 240 load.
3. Just replied to your other thread and the template looks great.
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
2) Knowing neutral is only important if you want to save a CT or two. You can just double up on CTs on each 240V circuit and avoid having to determine that.scyto wrote:1) are there any approved installers in the Seattle area who are experience in putting in a GEM can do the hard work of helping me understand what to buy??
2) how do I know which circuits have neutral? I replaced most of my light switches recently with Insteon and z-wave and every switch had a neutral in it. I should I assume every circuit has a neutral?
3) is there a set of templates some where that make it easy for me t document my panel? maybe a one note / word / excel doc or something?
Edit - I put my panel details in the project forum.
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
Thanks ben, does doubling up half the number of channels i.e. two channels needed per circuit? Or do the two CTs go on the same channel?
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
They go on the same channel. You can combine multiple CTs on any channel (we recommend splicing externally when going over 2 CTs on one channel).scyto wrote:Thanks ben, does doubling up half the number of channels i.e. two channels needed per circuit? Or do the two CTs go on the same channel?
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
Got it, I downloaded the manual last night and see they have 4 connectors per channel
some more questions:
Should I assume that I put more than 2 on a channel to aggregate across multiple circuits (i.e. to get my channel count down to 32?).
Do you guys know of anyone (electrician) in the Seattle area that could do this with me, not sure I want to start playing inside the breaker box.... though the generac switch allows me to easily disconnect service so.... maybe....
Also any chance of the expansion module for more channels that Teken keeps bugging you guys about
some more questions:
Should I assume that I put more than 2 on a channel to aggregate across multiple circuits (i.e. to get my channel count down to 32?).
Do you guys know of anyone (electrician) in the Seattle area that could do this with me, not sure I want to start playing inside the breaker box.... though the generac switch allows me to easily disconnect service so.... maybe....
Also any chance of the expansion module for more channels that Teken keeps bugging you guys about
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Re: I'm new and this is a bit overwhelming....
The 4 connection per channel is to accommodate the 2 different CT types. Micro-CTs you connect to Ports 2,3 of any channel, they're combined in parallel.scyto wrote:Got it, I downloaded the manual last night and see they have 4 connectors per channel
Split CTs are wired to 1,2 or 3,4. Any additional Split-CTs added to a channel have to be connected in series.
If you want to monitor everything and have more than 32 circuits the yeah, you'll have to combine a few.scyto wrote: Should I assume that I put more than 2 on a channel to aggregate across multiple circuits (i.e. to get my channel count down to 32?).
Don't know anyone on hand, any electrician should be able to install it however.scyto wrote:Do you guys know of anyone (electrician) in the Seattle area that could do this with me, not sure I want to start playing inside the breaker box.... though the generac switch allows me to easily disconnect service so.... maybe....
We haven't done anything beyond discuss the expansion module as of yet unfortunately.scyto wrote:Also any chance of the expansion module for more channels that Teken keeps bugging you guys about
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